go basically around the clock until the x date. margaret talev, thank you for joining us this morning. thanks to all of you for getting up way too early on this tuesday morning with us. morning joe starts right now. optimistic we may be able to make some progress because we both agreed default is not really on the table. we have to get something done here. and the consequence of failing to pay our bills would be the american people would have a real kick in their economic well-being. as a matter of fact, the rest of the world would, too. president biden and speaker kevin mccarthy continue to take positive have that positive tone on the debt ceiling and how it is going, but there s still no deal with just over a week until the country could default completely. we ll look at the disagreements that are holding up a deal for now. also ahead, donald trump s comments about e. jean carroll during his town hall could cost him more money, as the writer takes new legal ac
declare victory. they needed time for the votes to come in. disregards what they say. and then just continue with a big lie. even when his attorney general told him it was bs. when other senior members of the justice department said there was no merit to the fraud allegations. the u.s. attorney in georgia looked into other allegations and said they were without merit. he s told over and over again this is just not true. but he continues with it. and they raise money off the big lie. anger and motivate people to show up on the 6th around the big lie. and those people he insights to attack the capitol. and it s a pretty clear linear progress of that big lie from beginning to end. i think there s a question here about accountability that you and i have talked about before. the idea of clearly drying a line between the former president and what happened on this day. you don t have the ability to bring criminal proceedings, but you could make criminal referrals. what s your mess
that s sort of an important step here. again, to mika s point, it s the first time he s had to face accountability or restriction. he s not able to do what he wants per penalty from the court. you look, we re talking about accountable. it s really across the board here. i brought up the sandy hook lies. right. there was something where, again, people just started thinking, you can lie, say whatever you want to say, there won t be any consequences. we obviously know what happened took a while. with the voting machines, what happened there. we see what happened to donald trump in manhattan. we saw what happened with this jury verdict. we re also seeing it every day, the justice department continuing, and the fbi continuing to pursue people who beat the hell out of cops, rioted on january 6th, tried to overthrow a peaceful american presidential election. again, there are consequences. again, it appears that donald
declare victory. they needed time for the votes to come in. disregards what they say. and then just continue with a big lie. even when his attorney general told him it was bs. when other senior members of the justice department said there was no merit to the fraud allegations. the u.s. attorney in georgia looked into other allegations and said they were without merit. he s told over and over again this is just not true. but he continues with it. and they raise money off the big lie. anger and motivate people to show up on the 6th around the big lie. and those people he insights to attack the capitol. and it s a pretty clear linear progress of that big lie from beginning to end. i think there s a question here about accountability that you and i have talked about
the select committee investigating january 6th. congresswoman stephanie murphy. congresswoman, do you believe that today s hearing with with bill stealthen was not in person but on video that today s hearing made the point of the big lie and the connection to how it completely misled the people who rioted on january 6th. first, congratulations to him and his family. what an exciting thing. but i think the video testimony does in conjunction with our lye witnesses and the other video testimony that we were able to provide does lay out the case for the fact that donald trump lost and he was told by his advisers, he was told by his lawyers, he was told by the local elected commissioners, he was told by everyone that he had