mean,. host: have you been told is that you have mellowed? guest: i have been told that ever since they don t say the columns have been though but they say when you make your appearances. i think there s something to the. the old appearances were on crossfire which is like pushing you in the ring for a three round fight every night. and you ve got 90 minutes going after someone and you have to get your point across and you have to interrupt him. and now you don t do that as much except the mclaughlin group can get somewhat that way. but i do think i have somewhat mellow. you get your ideas out. i think the ideas we had, i think have been proven correct and i think innovation was the right way to go. control the borders for heavens sake. don t send all the manufacturing jobs abroad. i think have all been proven valid. if you control the borders we wouldn t have this problem. if you have gone into iraq, afghanistan and gone out to all these different places, expanding nat
[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] david is the editor of the new yorker magazine and reporter for the washington post. she is the author of king of the world about muhammad ali and lance tomb the last days of the soviet empire. for more information, visit newyorker.com. up next, syndicated columnist and former three-time presidential candidate pat buchanan joins book tv for the three hour in depth interview. host: pat buchanan, in the 2007 book day of reckoning in the chapter entitled the gospel of george bush you write that ideologies is the golden calf. ideologies is the substitute for religious faith. as ideologies that? guest: i can t know that it s bad but it is a substitute for faith and political religion. it is a system when foot of which is rooted in morality and the other of which is rooted basically in this idea concept of what the world was all about and what ought to be, and i think it is the great rival to conservatism. conservatism is