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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 12:58:00

There are lot of people who want to be president. ron desantis is the governor. governors have a real ability, sometimes, to be able to push forward and say that unlike some others they can actually get things done, they have legislation that they can sign. is ron desantis, does he have a path to the presidency? absolutely. florida is a key state. it is been turning republican over the last decades. florida has every aspect. urban, suburban. and rural. it has republican pockets, democratic pockets. immigrants. it is one of those representative states. frankly if i was advising the democratic national committee i would tell them there is no other state to start the electoral process in 2024 than florida. that said, it s has set a tone for the rest of the country and the divisiveness that is coming out is an indication of what is happening all across america. i want to switch gears frank. i have been talking about ukraine a lot. you had a focus group, this is

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 12:51:00

I know that with me, being somebody who is literally help these families get across the border, i care about this country. what ukrainians. i hope anyone. but i think it is personally clear that when you look at the batters in which people around the world have been treated, there is a major disparity. and the only reason you could look at it, it does come down to race. here s another key thing to. it it is easy to point out russia, the obvious about guy. but, then sometimes a lot of these refugee crisis are taking place around the country that is because of westerners, western countries, united states like others. who creates a narrative pointing a finger at america. a lot of people don t want to do that because it causes flux. one thing that is important is you are not suggesting that anybody should change how well we treat the ukrainians. we are just saying, can we bring everybody to the same level? exactly. that is what i am saying. listen. i am helping every single

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 12:10:00

Charge, under title 18, united states code three 71, there is a statute. what is going to require is a lot of really hard, intense work by the department of justice to aggressively investigate this. to talk to those republican congressman, to talk to mark meadows. all of whom may not want to talk, because they may have criminal culpability as well. so, yes, i do think that, with the fox news far-right eco sphere, there are people who are only getting their information from those outlets and they are not going to hear about the criminal conduct of donald trump and others. but it is incumbent upon all of us to continue to discuss it, and it is incumbent on the department of justice to be the backstop to hold our elected officials and others accountable for trying to overturn an election. our democracy depends on it. daniel, you are a gem.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 12:48:00

Work for most people. how big is the group of black journalists who specialize and things like this? oh boy. you know what, very few. and i m pretty sure that there are some out there. sometimes we don t know who each other all we all know each other. but probably a handful. because it is a very difficult feeling. you have to be the type of person, regardless of what your races. and so. there is not been a lot of approved meant of people of color. if the helped style stories. is it important? keep it will come to you and, say i did not think that is a thing that every single day. i have people in ukraine that woke up to, me which was kind of strange. it is kind of like being a celebrity, almost. saying, terrell, keep doing what you are doing. and with the strangest i don t feel like a cater to anyone else. like temple my town rhetoric or anything. so a wide range of people who were like-minded, like my experience, including a large number of ukraine to called me a social me

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 12:49:00

People aren t even black. when i was my first night in europe. i was a train station people were getting. off their worst present number of black people getting off. south asian people. they study in kharkiv. ukraine has a lot of universities. it is a low cost of living place. a lot of people go from african insolation to get their education there. there is a larger black and brown population there than one might assume. you did a lot of reporting about the fact that, in some cases, they were not being treated like everybody else. absolutely. what is unfortunate about any war in tragedy like this, is that whatever issues that existed before, whether the property, racism, during the war the first 7 to 10 days, you definitely saw a lot of racism at the border, a lot of passport privilege. a lot of these dynamics taking place after the 7 to 10 days tampering down. here is another important thing. racism doesn t just and at the border. i have a lot of people who i know personally who s

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