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Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 23:26:00

You do not want to enflame this situation anymore, because it s dangerous. we have already seen what this man can incite he s not only the first president to be indicted, he s the first president to be impeached twice, the first president to lose the popular vote twice he s the first president that refused to pass power peacefully and incited an insurrection. so i think everyone ought to try to lower the temperature and let the facts and the process speak for itself that s the way to restore the faith that the american people have in the rule of law in this country. well said, claire mccaskill, thank you very much. let me bring in reverend al sharpton, host of politics nation and president of the national action network. rev, one of the things donald trump has never experienced is being an ordinary man. he has gotten away with a lot over the course of his life, from when he and his father were able to settle out of a

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Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 23:53:00

Former president the first sitting president to beq■ charged,■ ■á qakes this passing lee, and it s quite a knock to h.■em a> you know, ando■q■ jason it is not unprecedented in the world forjf a president to be indicted. the current leader of israel is literally under indictment right now, and tried to seize control of the cour[d■system in order tot■ protect himself. south korea has indicted its former president. italyñi■has a president that faced indictment. you could go on, right? there are other countries where this has happened. it s just unprecedented here. and i wondere■ if you, as■k als- as a political scientist,5a■ ca■ amn idea of the presidency as sort of the king. because we havelp treatedt( j■u, functionally, even if they are not on paper. q■ñ■u■u■know, soccer, universal healtht■ care, arresting a form1 president who tries tot■ take

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Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 23:22:00

His mantra when he ran for president against hillary clinton, was he wanted to imprison her now, donald trump will walk through the routine steps of felony arrest processing in new york he ll be fingerprinted, photographed, he may be handcuffed they may give an exception to that because of his status he will then appear before a judge, likely released on his own recognizance they re nonviolent felony charges. if he choses not to surrender, it will be governor ron desantis, his role to indict him. give us the sort of your contextual framing of what we re seeing today well, first, let s put in context michael cohen. i think you all have pointed this out, but i want to say it slowly so everyone understands, not just with michael cohen indicted

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Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 23:12:00

But having been pushed this far by someone like this, and to be clear, i m not talking about donald trump s idealology or po things people might rightly find objectionable. i m talking about someone who tried to lie and cheat and steal an election and end american democracy. the charges in new york relate to the more old school lying and stealing and what they allege will be some sort of fraud, financial fraud, campaign fraud, but we don t have it unsealed yet. but it relates to things he did going into his first presidential election. but with everything we also know since then, if you have a cleave in the country between people who say, oh, gosh, but someone once had a powerful title, we should never hold them to account skrx the rest of the people who are saying is it rule of law or not, is no person above the law or not the people saying rule of law have the better side of the

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Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 23:00:00

And now it s not that means that goes off the table. other prosecutors may not have to wrestle with that question. we re dealing with something that is a jurisdictional priority in new york, which means national republican politics have no impact on it. even if a republican takes back the white house, there will be no pardon for donald trump in new york, because this is a local case that may scare him, too. p people like steve bannon and others that got into trouble and got a pardon, there is no pardon here when you look at the other cases, you have the january 6th investigation, which are federal in d.c., and local in georgia, where another local prosecutor could act, because the attempted coup involved alleged crimes in georgia. and you have the classified documents case if none of this seems normal, that s because we have been living through a prolonged state of an abnormal time, where

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