xfinity rewards creates experiences big and small, hello everyone i am alicia and once-in-a-lifetime. menendez. as we begin a new hour right now, former president donald trump and north carolina, after downplaying the criminal indictment against him, saying even if convicted, he will still run. this as the former president is three days from facing the music in miami, his arraignment in federal court. the faithful including most gop automakers standing by their man. what republican primary voters do the same? we hit the ground and i want to find out. the election that is approaching the gop field, as widened. what are the political implications of indicting a former president running again? what about the other possible indictments facing trump? lisa rubin is here to talk about the investigations in georgia and the assault on our democracy. this is american voices. a now twice indicted donald trump is on the road today surprising no one, waving his right to remain silent. r
director for counter intelligence. i want to go around the horn, but joyce, let s start with you. these charges were not necessarily what we were expecting today. what sticks out to you as the most important? so i think two things stick out. first off is this 32nd count of document retention, because unlike the other retention charges, where documents were found in boxes in bar rooms and bathrooms, these are documents of the former president took out, cavalierly showed around in a room full of people, who didn t possess security clearances. what do the involved? the involved highly confidential military plans. so when prosecutors try to ask a jury to convict on the basis of this conduct, this 32nd count really drives home how serious trump s crimes were. and it s if to prove that, we have these two new obstruction counts. they put trump firmly in the middle of the action. he is doing the asking.
civil rights attorney charles coleman, and former u.s. attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. and that is not all. we needed frank for losing tonight, former fbi assistant director for counter intelligence. i want to go around the horn, but joyce, let s start with you. these charges were not necessarily what we were expecting today. what sticks out to you as the most important? so i think two things stick out. first off is this 32nd count of document retention, because unlike the other retention charges, where documents were found in boxes in bar rooms and bathrooms, these are documents of the former president took out, cavalierly showed around in a room full of people, who didn t possess security clearances. what do the involved? the involved highly confidential military plans.
democratic politicians. it s just not true that the fbi and the justice department have been weaponized in a political way in the case, and the indictment is one of the most compelling documents of its kind that i ve seen. you can argue about whether the retention charges i spoke to a former trump appointed u.s. attorney today that said i wish that they did not charge him and keeping the classified document, but boy, the obstruction case is absolutely damning. this is a republican voted in by donald trump. the real issue is what you see more republicans fair minded republicans to reduce and take it for what it is and talk about it. the issues that it raises around donald trump and the nation s secrets. i agree with you, that is a precaution. another big question is aileen cannon, she made pro trump rulings. there is new reporting within the are from the new york times that cites the chief clerk at the federal court system in miami confirming judge cannon will, quote, continue to