real document, though it appears by this transcript he does clearly think that he is in possession of something that he is showing them something that supports his argument against milley. at this point it s not clear that the government even has that document in its possession. we don t have the indictment at this point. it s unclear when that will be unsealed, but it would not be surprise going this audio recording or quotes from it come up in the indictment. at this point we don t know. it s clearly a piece of evidence that the former president s legal team acknowledges is a problem for him. this is remarkable in every way. go on cnn.com and read through your report because you have all of these stunning quotes in there. thank you for this. stick us with. let s bring in katelyn polantz, live outside the courthouse in miami where trump will appear tuesday afternoon. you were one of the reporters who broke the story of that taped conversation. this development to that is e
Last week it really changed i know my personal understanding of this investigation. kaitlan, our competition, maggie and i have been reporting on this for long time. it wasn t clear that the former president was going to go charged and if he was charged what they could charge him with beyond obstruction. but once we got this recording it was so clear this was going to be a key piece of evidence. it was obvious because in here he is admitting in his own word, this is a recording, one of the most damning kinds of evidence that a prosecutor can have against someone, admitting he willingly, knowingly retained secret information. he seems a little confused about the classification of this alleged document, but that is incredibly damning. we don t know where this document is. so i am sure that pollutrosecut are working on that if they don t have the why they don t have it back. also the fact he is undercutting his own claim of his power to declassify so any point in this
Member from the southern district of florida. i think that s a very important thing to do when you re trying a case. i know defense attorneys will tell you that if you are going to be tried in a particular case you want to have a local lawyer on your team so that he has some feel for who he s trying the case before, how they react to certain facts and certain evidence. i would certainly hope that the prosecution team in this case would include somebody from the southern district of florida just so that they would have that kind of input. it s very interesting, i mean, if you ask any other situation in life in the united states of america where you could get 12 u.s. citizens to sit together who don t know each other and agree to any fact beyond a reasonable doubt, i think you would find that very difficult. richard gregorie, thank you for the insight very much this morning. glad to be with you.
Narrative. that really gives a lot of the information that they believe proves why the former president, a former president should be found guilty of violating multiple, multiple criminal laws. and if they don t do that, if this criminal indictment, this criminal information that they put out doesn t have those details at the start, i think what it does is it helps give the former president certainly continue to have the field to be able to mold and drive the narrative about what this case is about. he is already doing that. he is already doing that. and the fact is that the justice department probably, you know, if they had done this the right way, they should have had a judge already sign off on releasing this last night so that the public see what it is behind these charges. now, here is the deal wabout ths tape. it is possible they may not mention it in the criminal
Complaint, but i would bet that they at some point when this goes to trial that they will present this because it will be proof, even if the fact that the former president didn t declassify things, right, what they want to prove is that the former president knew these things were national defense information and one way you prove it is by saying these things are classified and the president, former president, knew that. you can bet this is going be a part of the criminal case. paula, you re a lawyer. it s most apparent, i think, to everyone this could die into the first charge, willful retention of defense information. what i m interested is your perspective if you sthi this could play into the latter charges, obstruction and false statements and the timeline because this is a record interesting 2021. he is already out of office. so what should we consider around that until at least we see the unsealed indictment? it s a great question, poppy. look, when we broke this story