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Wallace, president of sojourners. reverend, great to have you with us tonight. i thought there were a lot of parallels between president obama and pope francis. especially when you focus in on the social teachings of the catholic church. sort this oust out for us, reverend. good to see you, ed. first of all, it s important not to try to put the pope into our political paradigms and categories left and right, liberal, conservative. job title is vicar christ. i think he is doing his job pretty well. he is asking what would jesus say to all of us. that would probably make all of us uncomfortable. jesus said how you treat the poor, the hungry, the homeless, the naked, is how you treat me. they talked about that apparently for a long time in the meeting, about the poor. about how politics and economies are judged by how we treat the poor and about economic opportunity all over the world. they talked about war and conflict in syria, refugees being killed. jesus calls us to be peacemakers.