Investigation makes you feel in either direction about whether we would see some further criminal ratification for his role in the coup? well, i think that there are a lot of people in the country breathing a sigh of relief that donald trump cannot completely escape the criminal justice consequences of his own actions. and, you know, as he gets away with one thing, you know, whether it s a monuments gloss violations, or the ukraine shakedown, then it empowers him, and inspires shakedown then it empowers him and incites him to go on further and incite violent insurrection and steal government documents so we do need criminal consequences. congressman jamie raskin always a pleasure to have you on sir. thank you very much. that is all in on this monday night. the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening rachel. good evening. chris i don t usually get to see
Decision to let him escape jail in exchange for leaving public office. after they had all the evidence in the world to nail him for his crimes. that podcast was called bag man and the three real life stars of that podcast are the three federal prosecutors from baltimore who ran the agnew investigation, who amassed all the evidence against him, enough to put him in jail for a long time before the plea deal let him escape jail in exchange for leaving public service. those three prosecutors are barney skolnik, tim baker, and ron liebman. if anyone in the country has been here before it is these guys. joining us now live is one of those men from the center of the story ron liebman former assistant u.s. attorney in baltimore. thanks for being here tonight. great pleasure. thank you. first let me ask you if i got anything wrong there. i know i didn t tell the whole
Official. they had it all documented. they had records. they had receipts. they had notes. they had witnesses who had been involved in the corruption scheme, who were set to testify at trial. they had this guy. they had him. and he knew that they had him. and he just went on ballistic against the justice department investigation that had targeted him. he said the only reason they were coming after him was that he was a political target, that the people behind this investigation only wanted him out as a political official. they were corrupt, unprofessional, malicious, and outrageous. he said he was gonna go after these terrible people in the justice department who were witch hunting him. he was gonna destroy them. he was gonna tear the whole system down. he singled out individual officials in the u.s. justice department and went after them one by one. i say this to you the conduct of high individuals
And whether you like how that worked out with him or not, whether you think that was justice or not, that is the real history of how the u.s. department of justice contended with these issues the last time they were confronted with something like this. i mean, here was a man who fully expected himself to be the next president of the united states. the u.s. justice department also expected that he might be about to become the next president of the united states. but the justice department also had evidence that he committed dozens of felonies. he went nuts about the fact that they were investigating him. he threatened them all the time, he tried to shut that investigation. he tried to bully them. he said he was gonna come after them, turn the tables on them. but they did not back down. they confronted him with the evidence in court. and what s happened? he pled, he pled to avoid jail. and they let him because he also agreed to leave public office. we have only ever done something like t
It constitutes a detailed recitation of the facts and evidence developed by the investigation to date. the presentation of this statement in court today was a material condition requested by the department of justice to the agreement reached between the government and the defendant. and then this statement came out 50 years ago. it goes on and on and on for page after page after page in tiny print just like it says it is a detailed recitation of the facts and the evidence. the justice department had amassed all of this evidence that the defendant had committed dozens of felonies. they described in this statement all the evidence they had. all the things they believed they had proof that the defendant had done. it was not a short recitation. it was thousands of words. it described years of allegations of extortion and bribery, just rank corruption. this guy taking envelopes stuffed with cash in exchange