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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:43:00

Insurrection act in ways that many people found disturbing in 2020 and then in the final days of the presidency extremists urging him to invoke it to stay in power. stewart rhodes urged the invocation of the insurrection about and other oath keepers were chatting amongst themselves on text groups and facebook messenger about the invocation of marshal law to then come into the capitol on january 6th. so the committee is gathering this evidence saying we can get dangerously close and does the law need to change? there s debate on both sides and perhaps some believe there should be a consultation with congress before the invocation of the act or a stronger

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:44:00

Definition and these are the discussions that are ongoing right now. carol, your book report that is the extremists not the only people checking social media about the donald trump state of mind. you write this. general milley said he believed trump stoking unrest to invoke the insurrection act and call out the military. january 2 milley got a heads up that all ten living former secretaries of defense reached the same conclusion. he was monitoring an app. milley checking it looking for sign of protest, plans for siflt unrest that mike flynn may have stirred up. so this isn t just a concern of the committee but at the highest

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:42:00

To seize the presidency and likely to invoke marshal law. joining us is luke broadwater and carol lenig. author of the book with a whole lot on the insurrection act to get to in a second. luke, take me through what you are reporting. as the committee goes through the evidence, more than 850 witnesses so far, one thing that they ve begun to discuss is not just recommendations for change of the electoral count act and why they reported because donald trump and allies tried to exploit that statute to have him stay in power but now looking at whether or not there needs to be changes to the insurrection act. one reason, donald trump threatened to use the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:48:00

Do the republicans recognize how close esper and milley not leftists in the conversations, do the republicans understand a problem hire? are they participating in efforts to tweak the act itself? i m told any recommendation from the committee will be unanimous and will reach agreement. there were die verging views on the committee in 2020. there were some republican votes, one republican vote for reforming the insurrection act and a handful of democrats that voted against a change to it on the floor of the house. that said, the end of the donald trump presidency presented new dangers in the minds of many that were not present for that vote.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:45:00

Levels of the u.s. military. absolutely. what we have learned in the reporting around the time of that book was that mark milley said that when michael flynn, remember, president trump s most loyal enabler and the people that used to be the national security adviser until he had to be fired for lying to the fbi and facing possible criminal liability and shivers through the defense department brass because on december 17th and 16th flynn was publicly saying that the president of the united states should invoke the insurrection act, quote/unquote re-run the election by seizing the voting machines and basically in all swing states running it over again.

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