His stance. trump called the quote a big compliment, that reasons who criticized him after january 6th would still back him. trump did deny he told mccarthy he accepted responsibility for what happened. a person close to trump tells nbc news mccarthy called to apologize to the former president. oh, my god. the person said trump isn t really mad. he s got other things on his mind. he accepts kevin for who he is. which really says it all. let s bring in founder of the conservative website, charlie sykes. we had a good talk on conservatism the other day. talks about where we went wrong. i think you and i probably think we continue to go wrong. maybe a little more than matthew does. anyway, it is an excellent book on reviewing conservatism. here, though, you know, part of what we discussed the other day