And the debate over campus debates in a moment. But first, heres whats happening right now. Columbia university is trying to clear the encampment on its main lawn to prepare for graduation ceremonies. It gave students a 2 00 p. M. Deadline to leave or risk suspension. So far they have not left. With columbias president saying in a statement, one groups rights to express their views cannot come at the expense of another groups right to speak, teach and learn. Let us get right to the campus. Joining us now is nbc news correspondent guad venegas. No, its antonia hylton, im sorry about that. Also nbc news digital senior white house reporter, peter nicholas. Sorry. Antonia, talk to me about what you have seen. So far it doesnt look like anybody has left . Reporter they have not left, and if anything, theyre emboldened at this point. As you can see behind me here, the encampment is still very much in tact. I have not seen a single tent come down. And actually, there arent that many students