that s the reason to watch the press conference. i told them not to talk to the police. people are going to hear that and say that is a shame. i understand there are two imperatives. everybody wants to hear to go out flovein front of the camera. i miss her so much. bring her home from a defense perspective. what you want to do is you want to exercise the right we all have we don t use which is to remain silent. no one can say you re unconsistent with facts that you gave. because you re shady. they must know something. otherwise you talk or you d have nothing else to hide. the pub luck can believe what the public believes. what i will tell and what i tell a client is there is a courtroom. that is the forum by which we determine whether someone is guilty. what the public perception is often different from the facts as they come out in the courtroom. and here s the case in point. you indicated right that family
and adding staff at ports of entry. i think there are some efforts to get back to the negotiating table, but as it all unfolds there is roughly 800,000 federal workers working without pay. and the impact of the shut down, that will only es ka lay more and more pressure on the white house and lawmakers on capitol hill. what is the white house next steps here now that they she that sis his testimony going forward. they have been trying to under cut him as an effective pub luck per sewn in a. he any potential public statements he might make to congress. so far they seem to have been
members. indeed the trump seem says the original flyer was just a draft, never a completed plan and certainly nothing they ever wanted to get out to the general pub luck. tom foreman, cnn washington. the problem is there s also a formation document for this organization filed in texas that had their names on it. was that a draft? the trump sons now distancing themselves for obvious reasons but there are concerns about whether or not this shows what will happen if it isn t caught in advance. let s bring in the reporter you just saw in tom s piece who broke the details. carrie levine. he s joining by david farn holt who had been digging into conflicts of interest since the campaign. good luck to both of you. carrie, safe to say this was going to happen until you exposed it. is that what your reporting shows? my understanding is that that draft, or that original version of the solicitation was
clinton campaign encouraged brine pagliano to testify freely. i want to encourage you to step back and see this in broader terms. with bryan pagliano pleading the fifth, the story of mrs. clinton and her server takes on another feature of the e-mail scandal, the low level pepper who served in the campaign whose mean nothing to the general pub luck and who if presented with some form of immunity could conceivably be flipped to testify about the higher ups who he interacted. when you marry that to tend pg court cases and the fbi investigation and the more e-mails, checked just about every box for the making of a scandal with real legs in the presidential campaign setting. we don t want to speculate on it, but learn was not offered any deal.
coming in. in the state of virginia, that s the way their system is set up there. you don t have the same level of concern about it. there were some other issues that came up but that had nothing to do with the physical dollar contribution. that was something else. but at the end of the day, the reality is you write the check, you fully disclose the money donated to the pub luck and the public decides whether or not that s an appropriate relationship and they won t support or will support. actually they re yelling at me again. it s time to go. sorry we ran out time on this one. a little disorganized. i apologize. want to thank michael steel for coming in. still ahead, some christie reporting of our own. that s coming right pup. stay with us. ve learned is my philosophy is real simple american express open forum is an on-line community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make smart business decisions.