hook for some of the statements that were made. so i m sure it s anxiety inducing for a lot of them and on top of everything else that they re watching politically, which if you look at any of the national polls that have come out lately, even though his base has remained solid, you see incremental degradation with the general electorate. losing to joe biden. i m sure some republican is going to come along and make that point in the primary. we ve seen very bad weeks for him before and he s managed to publicly at least in the court of public opinion he s been able to skirt around it. this feels different to me. and it may be different. first of all, when it comes to public opinion, something like 60%, 61% of the country does not want him to run in 2024. his base is solidly behind him and the republican voters are solidly behind him but the independents have walked away. in fact, the number goes up to 67% for independents don t want him to run. so things are not working th
and find some accommodation route to testify, he is going to cite potentially a letter from donald trump according to the brand-new washington post reporting, and as you may recall, he is awaiting a federal criminal trial that could land him in prison. it is a big deal that mister bannon now is i according to the post some sort of accommodation. we are going to get to that story in a few minutes. we are tracking one element. as for the white house lawyer, mister pat cipollone, he went hours and hours, a .5 hours total. in fact, we are told that it just wrapped up within the last few moments here, pat cipollone arrived before 8:30 am, he is visible in the passenger seat caught by cameras there, he was escorted to a conference room to provide this testimony. there were some shouted questions from the reporters today, this was a dramatic theme when you consider just how long this was, he did not respond to the press, mister pat cipollone matters because he is someone who has bee
it s debate week so we have james here, too. 30 second spin room then we ll let you go. since i have you both here what s key for debate night, nicolle? i just think people need to understand this has never happened before. it s a huge television event. it s a huge political event. the conversations we have every day with our viewers and brilliant people like james are not things a lot of americans going to watch in the debate are going to be tracking day to day. it s hugely important. huge opportunities for both men and huge liabilities and risks for both men. it s why people watch sports. it s why football is one of the top 20 televised large events because anything can happen and can be brutal. this is the political version of a big and important consequential football game. yeah, absolutely. i m going to get james response, but as a courtesy because i know how hard you work, two hours every day, but i m going to let you go and we ll do it on the program. nice to see