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in climate of opinion within his party that made it more congenial for those beliefs to take root. and could outlive him. but, you know, it s a complicated problem, and it s not just about one man. so i think a lot of people within the party need to recognize the breadth of the problem. well, and it s not just about one man. the thing is when i was running in 93 and 94, it was post waco, post ruby ridge. you had a lot of militias, people that called themselves property rights activists who would of course, i m all for property rights. i m a small government conservative, but they would use property rights as sort of a vailed language to talk about violence against the federal government. they would talk about the militias in the same way. i debated against a guy in 1994 who when somebody talked about expanded background checks said

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