Starting at the top of the enterprise with donald trump s attempts to overturn the defeat. in the context of two probes starting to touch and in some ways spark if you will, this is something congressman raskin said in the washington post yesterday. we have not been shy about criminal evidence encountered and the report will have profuse setting forth crimes not yet alleged. what he doesn t say to me is most interesting. there are more crimes. they have more. there s more than we know and what they put in the filings in the eastman cases where the judge said something similar to the judge today. but they keep making clear the evidence is for the prosecutors. we are not prosecutors. what do you make of the ongoing tension between the congressional investigation and
Thing. one doesn t charging decisions. what do you make of this tension and this sort of i think misperception. they have different ends but not different means. 100%. i think that a referral by the justice department over donald trump is warranted. they filed a brief that it is more likely than not that donald trump committed various federal felonies and then a judge in california, very respected federal judge, looked at the allegations and said, yes, i think that s right. more likely than not that donald trump committed the crimes. so with the committee and the people are saying is that would politicize it for us to refer this to the justice department. which i just fundamentally disagree with. for one thing, it is their job to gather this evidence and congressional referrals have a long history and done it with
Books and throw open the doors but i m also a student of history and cipollone is not the first one to do so. don mcgahn was the primary narrator of the second volume, the crimes committed by donald trump. that were documented and detailed in that report. i think six of them is don mcgahn as a key witness. this is the second white house counsel who s gone out of a spirit of confession, a spirit of inside knowledge, out of a spirit of knowing that crimes were committed. talk about another white house counsel opening up door to what donald trump s west wing actually looked like. i d push back a little bit on the idea that cipollone is actually opening the door. we know that he testified that trump authorized the engage wmt the committee. that s all we know. if the past is any prologue the white house counsels just say
i was going to say there s so much talk hereby about new and additional and more advanced weapons incoming to ukraine. i wonder if even before they arrive and shipped to the front lines if there s a psychic boost to knowing they re on their way. reporter: it s a definite boost. they re not getting the exact things they want and the fighter planes which they say would turn the tide in the battle but the more crimes we have seen the russians commit here the more arms they get from the west and a big boost for them. they keep pushing the russians in areas like mariupol hit so bad. they re not letting them take them with support from the west and that definitely gives them a big morale boost. i spoke to a ukrainian. i said do people like boris
Doj? it is not unusual for a congressional probe to sort of uncomfortably shadow dance a little bit with the justice department. they investigate because it is problematic and bad and sometimes crimes committed that doj congressional investigators look into. other times over the course of the investigation or alleged to have been committed as in the case of steve bannon and seasoned congressional investigators and doj officials are used to navigating. to the extent it may create friction that would larmgly be because the justice department doesn t like being told who they re supposed to investigate and prosecute. they bristle whether the president or the congress and telling them how to do the jobs why they don t like the