statements. here the statements were malicious, repeated, they continued to occur even after the verdict. there s no excuse for it. howard: obviously, not just cnn. you also mentioned the new yorker and other news organizations. but with all of that and mistakes were made, and maybe it s more than just mistakes, but the tone and the attitude of the coverage isn t vigilantes a pretty strong word? no, i don t think. vigilante is somebody who wants to impact the outcome of a case, to put the elbow on the scale of justice without any basis at all. i was using the term only because they used the term against rittenhouse. now, that s not a defamatory term, vigilante. white principle cyst is. white supremacist. there are cases that say you can sue them for defamation. that s not an opinion, that s a fact. and it s the people on cnn and msnbc, the people who called him a white supremacist in the media