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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20211228 08:35:00

sense of kind of, you don t want to betray your comrades and to have the kind of moral courage to just say the truth as you see it when people are in power i m always found incredible. i had a conversation about those critiques with archbishop tutu when i became u.s. ambassador to south africa. of course he was really proud of what we had achieved in the u.s. with the election of barack obama but i remember archbishop tutu holding up his own example and he said just as i had to turn against those who i had been in the trenches with when i believed they betrayed democracy if at any point, young man, he said to me, you feel as if your party, your colleagues are a betraying your principles you have to fine a way to speak out against that as well. so he never hesitated to bring that kind of strength, truth, and real courage of his conviction.of courage is an important word to use about archbishop tutu.is this is someone who not only spoke out forcefully but, chris,

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