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and the fact that all of this is being funded by the uk government. we should remember, too, that in terms of numbers at least, compared to other european countries, or indeed elsewhere, we are not talking about that many people. it s just more visible. i think it s different in terms of illegal immigration. i think if you look at the overall numbers of people coming in illegally, they re broadly the same as they were in my time. but what s changed is the method. when i was in the job, a lot of the illegal migration was coming through the port of calais. people were penetrating the port perimeter, climbing into the backs of lorries, and getting through that way. but we have invested quite a lot of time and effort with the french on tightening up the port of calais. it s much harder to break into the port now. and we have quite sophisticated search capabilities to detect people climbing into lorries. when you add that to the covid crisis, when less lorries are coming across anyway, the

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