response from the west, including preparing sanctions. to have any hope of deterring putin and informing his calculus, you need to make clear anything he does will have the strongest possible response. we saw that in the clarifications today. richard engle, was there any reaction official or that you detected from sources to the united states sanctions against ukrainian lawmakers and the sort of signal that ukraine had a ways to go in clearing out corruption in their own government? no. a lot of the attention here is focused on much more domestic politics. the former president poroshenko returned and he is trying to present a challenge to president zelensky. it is absent from the public discourse here. zelensky doesn t want to show
dangerous but not as dire. how much of this do you think is actually a disagreement and how much is just sort of different emphasis? ukraine obviously has been living with the threat. they ve had russian forces in crimea for quite some time now. they ve lost thousands of troops over the last several years. and they also don t want the economy ruined as they re waiting for whatever vaush going to do. anderson, to a certain extent, it might be a bit of how many angels dance on the head of a pin, some semantics involved. but i think another factor is sort of internal ukrainian politics. you know, ukraine is still a new democracy, and there s a lot of political maneuvering that s going on behind the scenes. you may recall a number of days ago the former president poroshenko returned. he s a very nationalistic type of guy. i think the current ukrainian president zelensky is probably aware that have and aware there