Our vatican expert and cnn contractor is also the news director of catholic television network. and roberto sid from miami beach, florida. he is also from argentina and you met the man who is now pope last week. and father hillgardiner is here with me at st. patricks. raymond, let me start with you. he came in second last time. you ve always talked about this as a horse race. now he is pope francis. who is this man? well, i think he called himself pope francis after st. francis of assisi. the great builder of the church. god told st. francis, rebuild my church. the new pope francis is supposedly a reformer of sorts. he reformed the jesuits, fighting against liberation theology when that was on the rise in argentina. and from the people i have
You met the man who is now pope last week. and father hillgardiner is here with me. let me start with you. he came in second last time. you ve always talked about this as a horse race. now he is pope francis. who is this man? well, i think he called himself pope francis after st. francis of assisi. the great builder of the church. god told st. francis, rebuild my church. the new pope francis is supposedly a reformer of sorts. he reformed the jesuits, fighting against liberation theology when that was on the rise in argentina. and from the people i have spoken to here in the vatican who know him well they say he is the butt kicker that is needed here to face this clergy. we ll see what happens in the days ahead. it will be very interesting. the word reform can mean reforming bureaucracy at the vatican and kit mean reforming other things, policies towards
Pope francis chose his name from pope francis assisi. he is known for a love of animals and for the poor. will it bring change when it comes to some of the divisive issues that many around the world focus on around the church, gay rights, celibacy. out front tonight is the communications director for opus day and mary johnson joins us. she was a nun for 20 years before leaving the church due to an affair she had with a fellow nun. they is now author of an unquenchable thirst. let me start with you, mary. the pope has strongly opposed gay marriage in argentina, contraception argentina as we talked about earlier in the program. abortion, of course.
Gay and lesbian people a form of discrimination against children. the real discrimination is the pedophilia with little more than collusion from the vatican. let me just start with that. well, i would say that children need to experience a love of both a mother and a father. and in terms of things like gay marriage, we should get away from need ideology. i think there is any room, especially a form of discrimination. some who say children should have parents. pope francis has demonstrated a real pastoral charity of just last year, came out and chastised priests in his diocese who refused to ballpark ties children of unwed parents. and while standing pro family, also making these pastoral judgments in favor of the faith
Listening devices from outside the conclave. the truth of the matter is that the vatican was not worried about what got in, they were worried about what was getting out which brings me to tonight s number, 17. that s the number of cardinals who had a twitter account when the conclave began. now despite the oath of secrecy and the threat of ex-communication that every cardinal faces during conclave, there is a precedent. the vatican was very concerned that one of those cardinals would sing like a canary. that s the real reason they were jamming the electronic signals and searching the cardinals bags on the way in. it wasn t us the media. rumor has it that it dates fwook 2005 when a cardinal texted a name to a german television station and i don t think he got ex-communicated. all right. still to come, the pope is from a country outside europe. what will a south american pope mean to catholics in the united states? and the catholic church has been hit hard by scandal. what pope francis h