place between february to june. five months. then 16 points in the last three months which suggests that this number among independents and the overall number will continue to decline until something dramatic happens that causes these numbers to stop and to begin to rebound. we certainly haven t seen any of that in september. trace: you are talking about numbers and i wanted to put the iowa numbers on. approval numbers in iowa. they are fairly stunning. 31% approval for president biden. 62% disapproval there and follow that up with the pollster sell zer quoting this is a bad poll for joe biden and it is playing out in everything he touches right now. that s the truth. everything they attempt comes crumbling down and yet there are no fall guys. nobody is being punished for any of this. nobody is being held responsible. the poll is a nonpartisan poll run by the des moines register,