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it was mainly sponsored by the arkansas phase of things to believe honestly mrs. clinton lied in her answers. that is what most of it had to do with his lobbying on the answer is not with the conduct itself was less significant. guest: he told me monica sade hillary because the office of independent counsel was so focused and thought they had the president in their sights they thought this would be a distraction into be fair about it their assessment was at this point the chances of actually convicting even at the indicted were very low, so they chose not to do it but that was going on right at the time that they were pursuing the prison on the monica lewinsky charges. host: to testify against the president and the secret service presented then resisted that. and you tell that story. it devolved into were fbi agents were accusing the director of the secret service of participating to cover up. that is shocking. guest: i spent a lot of time on this in the book is y ....