on the way out. so slow, tedious. it has to be. the communication lines with the military forces have to be clear. this has been approved by commanders. we have safe passage here. this is a civilian convoy. this is a humanitarian initiative that took the agreement of ukraine and russia and that should be noted that they were able to come to this agreement and able to allow these civilians out of harm s way, as international humanitarian law calls for. as you suggested, now what we want to do is repeat the process and get even more people out. jason, how many more people you re trying to get out now? well, in the plant i.t., we know there are more people but we don t have a precise count. we wish we did. of course, in the city of mariupol and in a larger sense, we know there are thousands of people. the good news is that these discussions are ongoing. i m hopeful that we ll have more