And the russians have made have made it known that you cross putin and you re not going to be around very long. really quickly, we re out of time, but a yes or no. do you believe we ll ever know fully what happened? i don t expect that there s going to be a kind of full investigation as to what happened with this plane. i d be very surprised if they found some innocent cause of this plane crash. i don t think there s any question one way or another it was blown up. secretary panetta, always appreciate your insight and time. thank you. good to be with you. so while we don t know exactly what happened to that plane carrying prigozhin at this hour, what we do know is that russia has shot down passenger planes in the past. we re going to take a closer look at those incidents just ahead. also, keeping a close eye on all of the developments out of fulton county, georgia, where rudy giuliani just posted bond and was released from the fulton