Phasing-in process. which was against what the administration had been repeating over did and over, that no, this needs to be quick, then north korea can get its reward for that. you saw them trying to save this. but we know that this big sticking point has been north korea wanting it to be slow and phased, each time they take a step they want something in return. and ambassador, as we see these explosions, right, the images here are very powerful. but do you agree with bob baer that it s easy to test somewhere else, plus look at what we saw with iran, right? giving up a test site is far from giving up know-how and ability to build a nuclear weapon, especially when korea had got ann lot further and had the ability according to u.s. analysis of striking a city in the u.s. as far as chicago? i agree with bob, this was a symbolic gesture. frankly, it could be meaningless. the north koreans have nuclear weapons. they have the ability to test