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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:44:00

For many countries, because the leadership in beijing doesn t know how else to deal with this, except through censorship. joel, you know, if they tried that in the tristate area for too long, people would rebel inside and outside living their lives. yeah. but in an authoritarian state like china, of course, it s a different situation. what is the recourse of the people, average citizen, in shanghai, maybe coming to beijing soon lockdowns like this, how do you push back from a system like this? i don t think they have a recourse. you re recognizing that. they re starting to see resistance but it s small and marginal. the thing about the chinese information system is when it becomes mass action, or popular action, that s when the government really clamps down. we saw it even with the outset of the pandemic in wuhan, there were a few independent bloggers.

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