Is a difference between racism in the country that they go to win in western europe. because in their view, they are not welcomed as warmly as the white ukrainians. and sometimes they get racism from fellow ukrainian refugees themselves. all the time they do not want to speak out because they are afraid of being attacked on social media etc. there are a lot of stories that we don t know about, unfortunately, in this particular instance. some of the things are under the radar. i was in hungary, where it is not under the radar. they re the government there is a really racist. [laughs] let s talk about the coverage of these ukrainians. i think it has been exemplary. i think the western response to these refugees has been really really strong. that is not the case for all refugees. there are a lot of work, rhymes genocides, people being oppressed around the world, and we are not all opening hurdles all that what the rest the world. well, listen. i think when you see all of this whi