there were also fireworks from the judge directed at the prosecutor. you are already, you are i was astonished when you began your examination by commenting on the defendant s post arrest silence. that s basic law, has been for 40 years, 50 years. i have no idea why you would do something like that and it gives, well, i ll leave it at that. so i don t know what you re up to. just hours ago, i said i heard nothing in this trial to change any of my rulings. so why pardon me? that was before the testimony. don t get brazen with me. joining us now, we have jeffrey toobin. cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, joey jackson and shimon who is on the ground for us in kenosha. joey, how do you think the defense has done at making kyle rittenhouse seem justified for using deadly force. don t get braizen. they ve done excellent. putting aside this emotional piece, which was very powerful, people will debate was it real, the reality is i say they did well for t
three people right there. we ve got a lot to talk about as we wait for the lunch break to end. joining me, nbc news correspondent gabe gutierrez who has been in kenosha, civil rights attorney and former prosecutor crystal given, and msnbc contributor danny cevallos. it s uncommon for a defendant to testify, this is a self-defense case. he broke down in tears after being fairly composed. what do you think the jury s take might be? first, oftentimes the defense rests without introducing any evidence. that being said, in this particular case, because it s self-defense, this is one of those cases where it might be a time to have your client called to the stand, because he may be the only one that can articulate what he feared at the moment that he fired those shots. so it s a really tough decision. and i guarantee you that the defense team really wasn t 100% sure until today, until the day they decided to call him. it s always a last-minute decision. but that doesn t mean tha
i don t know. someone did try to hurt me. you re talking later on. yes. this is before the shootings. yes. this is before you crossed 60th and dealt with rosenbaum and all of them. yes. so at this point in time, you don t think there s a hostile crowd, you re there to help people and running out with an ar-15. i don t understand why you felt you were in danger in what you thought was a friendly crowd helping them? i didn t say i didn t think they were hostile. i didn t think they were hostile towards us. why do you need the gun when you go out there? i need the gun if somebody attacked me. why did you think anybody would do that? i don t know. you were preparing for it. you thought it would happen. no, i didn t. that s the reason you brought the gun. i brought the gun to protect myself. because you thought you were going to be in danger. right? yes. you thought you were going to be in danger, right? i didn t think i would be put in to
yes. okay. but at this moment in time, this is before the shootings. yes. . this is before you crossed 60th, before you deal with rosenbaum, huber, grosskreutz, all that. yes. so at this moment in time, you don t think there s a hostile crowd, you re there to help people and yet you re going to run out there with the ar-15. i don t understand why you felt you were going to be in danger, if you re out in what you think is a friendly crowd, helping them? i didn t say i didn t think they were hostile. i didn t think they were hostile towards us. okay. so they re not hostile to you and you re going to go help them. why do you need the gun when you go out there? i needed the gun because if i had to protect myself because somebody attacked me. why would you think anybody would do that? i don t know. but you clearly planned on it. you were prepared for it. you thought it was going to happen? no, i didn t. that s the whole reason you brought the gun, isn t
about later on. yes. this is before the shootings. this is before you crossed and all that. yes. at this moment, you don t think there s a hostile crowd and you re there to help people and you re going to run out there with an ar-15. i don t understand why you felt you were going to be in danger if you re out in what you think is a friendly crowd helping them. i didn t say i didn t think they were hostile. i didn t think they were hostile towards us. so they are not hostile to you and you re going to go help them. why do you need the gun? i needed the gun because if somebody attacked me. why would anyone do that? i don t know. you clearly planned on it. you thought it was going to happen ha. no, i i didn t. that s the whole reason you brought the gun. suspect it? i brought the gun to protect myself. exactly. because you thought you personally were going to be in danger. right? not necessarily. i don t understand. you said you re going to bring