Him. they don t want to charge joe biden s son. this is exactly what access to joe biden is. this is why people were willing to pay millions of dollars to get it. that s what the scheme was. harris: phil holloway is here now, former assistant district attorney. phil, how shocked are you that at one point they wanted to put president biden on the stand? were they seeing what the rest of the country was seeing for a heartbeat and changed their minds? what was happening? this shows why influence pedestrian plunge is such a big deal. there is a reason why the lawyers for the defense threatened the prosecutors with the name joe biden. that shows what the purchasing power of that name is. they bought themselves, if you will, a sweetheart deal because it is a threat. it is a threat to weiss. if you go after this guy, we ll bring in your boss. he is their boss. there is the attorney general in between.