joan donoghue, welcome to hardtalk. happy to be here. you sat on the international court ofjustice for pretty much 14 years. the last three years as president of the court. one of your last cases was the case brought by south africa against israel on the basis of genocide in gaza. were you aware of the scale of international scrutiny on that particular case? yes, absolutely. it was very clear. and in particular, or, for example, outside of the peace palace, where the court sits, there were two groups of demonstrators, or interested people, and one of them had a big jumbotron set up outside so that the participants there could watch what was going on inside. and we were aware of people around the world watching the delivery of the order. do you feel the pressure in that situation? i wouldn t say that i felt pressure but i felt that the delivery of the order itself would be something that would matter, including in the way i delivered it to regular people, notjust to internatio
there was a plausible case to answer, but a finaljudgment is likely to take years. today i have an exclusive interview with joan donoghue, thejust retired president of the icj, who delivered that initial court ruling that sent shock waves around the world. in a sense, the whole idea of internationaljustice is on trial. how will it fare? joan donoghue, welcome to hardtalk. happy to be here. you sat on the international court ofjustice for pretty much iii years. the last three years as president of the court. one of your last cases was the case brought by south africa against israel on the basis of genocide in gaza. were you aware of the scale of international scrutiny on that particular case? yes, absolutely. it was very clear. and in particular, or, for example, outside of the peace palace, where the court sits, there were two groups of demonstrators, or interested people, and one of them had a big jumbotron set up outside so that the participants there could watch what was g
how will it fare? joan donoghue, welcome to hardtalk. happy to be here. you sat on the international court ofjustice for pretty much 14 years. the last three years as president of the court. one of your last cases was the case brought by south africa against israel on the basis of genocide in gaza. were you aware of the scale of international scrutiny on that particular case? yes, absolutely. it was very clear. and in particular, or, for example, outside of the peace palace, where the court sits, there were two groups of demonstrators, or interested people, and one of them had a big jumbotron set up outside so that the participants there could watch what was going on inside. and we were aware of people around the world watching the delivery of the order. do you feel the pressure in that situation? i wouldn t say that i felt pressure but i felt that the delivery - of the order itself would be something that would matter, including in the way i delivered it to regular people, n
and crime have dominated talking points, along along with two people not there us presidentjoe biden and leading 2024 republican candidate former president donald trump. the debate, televised by the fox business network and univison, features seven candidates. they were required to reach polling and donor threshholds set by the republican national committee. in order to take part. but, for the second time in his 2024 campaign, donald trump isn t taking part in the debate. the 77 year old has suggested sharing a stage with what he deems low polling rivals could only hurt his commanding lead. it comes as he faces mounting legal challenges, and indictments, and just four months before the iowa caucuses begin that formally launch the gop s nomination process. mr trump instead is in detorit where he talked to car workers and blue collar employees. it comes afterjoe biden became the first sitting us president tojoin a picket line on tuesday at the invitation of the united auto wo
for the last three decades. last week, azerbaijan seized this disputed region. fears of ethnic cleansing and persecution have driven over 6,650 people to cross into armenia, according to the armenian government estimates. roads leading towards the armenian border are jammed with traffic as people leave in search of shelter, safety, and humanitarian aid. our reporter natasha zotova is on the ground at one of the aid tents in armenia where refugees have sought help. she sent in this update. we are in this village right on the border between armenia and nagorno karabakh. we can see the refugees coming through the border to armenia. here in this tent, they are being registered. people are fleeing with their belongings because they are afraid, theyjust don t believe they can be safe in nagorno karabakh under azerbaijan rule. some people told me they don t expect to get home ever. azerbaijan is promising not to target civilians and to respect the rights of ethnic armenians living i