and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons because they are being treated so unfairly. so unfairly, he said. that is a former president, dangling pardons in front of alleged felons, some of whom might be called on one day to testify against him. yet again, shouldn t be that surprising. he has done it openly before, and paid no price for it. back in 2018, when he refused to rule out pardoning his corrupt-former campaign adviser paul manafort. think the whole manafort trial is very sad. when you look at what s going on there, i think it s a very sad day for our country. he worked for me for a very short period of time. but you know what? he happens to be a very good person, and i think it s very sad what they ve done to paul manafort. he would, of course, go on to pardon paul manafortor fort and roger stone, neither in his words, ever flipped on him. so what he saw on saturday shouldn t be surprising.