that there will be parole? well, yes, although really given the way that this particular case was structured, several of those underlying felony counts were merged into the murder counts. and the additional ones would be for the most part con current to both each other and the murder sentence. so at the end of the day the question is really life, you re going to serve 30 years and be considered for parole or serve the rest of your life in prison. areva, we heard from ahmaud arbery s brother and sister offering the rebuttal to the st statement from one of the defense attorneys from the trial. i want to hear from ahmaud arbery s father. his victim pact statement. a man who killed my son has sat in this courtroom every single day next to his father. i never get that chance.