and i think i don t know if we ll see other indictments like this, but i you can see why it took so much time. it s very meticulous. when you use this, this statute is very rarely used. i think it was last used about 20 years, 30 years ago, 1990 or so. and it s hard to prove because you re talking about intent. you re talking about some things that overthrow the u.s. government. it went well beyond the 700-plus charges that we have seen already. so i m interested if you might see other indictments involving maybe the proud boys or three%ers, other group, sort of paramilitary-type groups that we ve seen individual members arrested. let s talk to elie about that. nothing about this describes the normal tourist visit some tried to portray. what do you think of that and what do you think of what chris said? do you think we ll see other