billionaires to create, mika, their own parallel media universe. it will be a social universe with fewer rules, more voices, more unfettered speech. here is the big point we hear from left and right, less control by the establishment media. so these vocal billionaires, a lot of them on the right, are spending big to try to do this. so that s where you get not only eamonn elon musk trying to make changes at twitter, you get your parler and trump s social. those parallel systems don t work. people go on twitter to tell you what they have on their parallel system. second, running a social media company like running most companies, harder than it looks so far. this is a lot more talk, mika, than it is action or delivery. hey, mike. jonathan. great to talk to you again. certainly truth social has seemingly struggled for users and the other ones on the right
kind of in awe in some ways of what they withstood and that they re still here and able to talk about it without, you know, just literally dissolving into puddles given the trauma of what they went through. and then, you know, you said other networks. i think it s really important that it s not just that there s this cult of personality. what we do not grasp fully yet, we have only a vague sense of it, there is this parallel universe, this parallel media infrastructure, this parallel media universe in which donald trump is the king, the god head, but it just means that there are tens of millions of americans now, the reason that this is not going to change their minds is it s not going to get through to them at all. they are absorbing a totally different version of reality of what s going on in america. the extent that this stuff got covered, as moved as i was by the testimony, i was just enraged to see people on, you