john: america reports, waiting for a federal judge s ruling on the fate of title 42. decision could come down any minute as border states brace for a bigger crisis if the trump era immigration order is allowed to expire on monday. i m john roberts. gillian: great to be with you, john. gillian turner in for sandra smith. border areas are seeing a big surge in activity in anticipation of the title 42 decision in the del rio sector in texas, 1800 migrants in 24 hours. a large number of those people were single adults. that s the migrant demographic that is likelyest to be expelled under title 42. john: texas governor abbott says it will only get worse. it would surpass the population of houston if title 42 is not renewed. 18,000 pouring into border states every day. bill joins us from the border in eagle pass, texas. what are you seeing there? john, good afternoon to you. del rio sector getting hammered with activity, nearly 2,000 illegal crossings in just 24 hours, an
That? self-protection for him, trying to throw somebody under the bus or did he just say the quiet part out loud? i suspect it happened, john, and i would think the reason probably is there s a paper trail someplace, and you know, what ends up happening when you are under oath at a trial is all kinds of things come out because people are concerned that if there s a document someplace, or a texas we have seen in this trial, you know, if you don t tell the truth you can end up getting bit by that. the so i actually don t think this is a surprising development. it s surprising that he said it on the stand, but i think we all who were looking at this and can add 2 and 2 had to figure if the clinton campaign talked about it they would not have done it without the candidate. john: and mark elias,