does that concern you in. it does concern me, first of all. if ken and pete williams are reporting it, i m taking it to the bank. just because we re beginning to hear a report may issue the february, perhaps march, that does not mean indictments will not also drop. both of those things could happen simultaneously. mueller has been investigating in classic fashion which is from the bottom up. he s indicted and resolved in many instances the cases against the gates and the flynns and the papadopouloss and the manaforts and the vanderswan. we still have those folks up top. that may include the president and his family, don junior, jared kushner. we still have the stones and
israeli agent. reporter: secret agents in love? a wild theory, perhaps, but the papadopouloss sometimes seemed to play up the notion they re the stars of a real-life spy thriller. maybe. nobody believe it. i probably think it s interesting, fun, thinking two spying falling in love. maybe. we don t know. we ll never know. actually, she ll never know about me. i ll never know about her. reporter: perhaps not surprising simone papadopoulos is pursuing a career in hollywood. you ve been going on my tv including my show to try to talk directly to president trump and ask him for a pardon s is that a possibility? if trump is definitely should be a possibility, and actually something that i really expect him to do after all
forward the fantasy of me and george being two agents working together and having fun occasionally together. that s really the impression and the conclusion the interview led to. you were an agent from where? they asked me if i speak russian, and i was full italian, if i had only one passport or more passports, if i was familiar with russian people in london. have you ever been to russia? yes, i did. you have been to russia? yes. but you re not russian? no, i m italian. i m not even 100% italian. where did they think he was from? i never understood. i never understood, but maybe in light of other things happened, i suspect they thought he could be an israeli agent. secret agents in love in a wild theory perhaps, but the papadopouloss sometimes seem to play up the notion that they re the stars of a real-life spy
papadopouloss. the people advising donald trump were the d list, because nobody thought they had a chance. so as a consequence, a whole bunch of things that would have raised the antennas of richard haass, who would say, wait a second, this just isn t done, those people weren t around trump. and then you see his lying about it. the coverup is what s going to get them in an enormous amount of trouble. we ve got to take a break. stay right here. we will be back to talk about everything else. secretary tillerson, north korea, everything we can fit in. hi. i m the one clocking in when you re clocking out. sensing your every move and automatically adjusting to help you stay effortlessly comfortable. i can even help with a silent night. does your bed do that? i don t actually talk but i can tell you how you slept. i m the new sleep number 360 smart bed. let s meet at a sleep number store.
at the time these conversations were happening between flynn and the russian ambassador, jared was in charge of foreign policy for the trump administration. for the trump team. he was the one that was approving every meeting that trump would or would not have with a head of state. he was the one that was determining foreign policy direction. so it begs credulity he would not have been aware of what he was discussing with kislyak. and if flynn was saying, hey, we re going to make sure these sanctions come off, i think jared was absolutely a part of that. there s no way we re not going to find that out. now, i don t think that s collusion. for me, you know, collusion implies that trump and putin were actually in some way working together to try to swing the election an illegitimate way. i don t see that. but i do see breath taking, staggering incompetencies. i think jared had no idea what he was doing was potentially problematic for awhat an administration would look like and there were