Doses of vaccine regardless if it s the mrna vaccine or the inactivated vaccine. once we have reached the third dose vaccine, then really the number of cases coming down with severe disease will be relatively few. and the health system will not be under stress. the open question is if the chinese government will agree to change tack here because it would be a big change from what they re advocating now. dr. ivan hung, thanks so much. appreciate it. thank you. now, just ahead here for us, investigators have begun the difficult task of collecting evidence of potential war crimes in ukraine. plus we ll hear from a journalist who has just returned from villages near chernihiv about the destruction she s seen. stay with us. john vause is back live from ukraine after a break.
Up and making the time. you ve just return from some areas outside chernihiv, and some parts have been left in ruins, and in some of these areas the destruction is not on the same level as what we ve seen in bucha or borodyanka? why is that? why haven t they suffered the same fate? so, yeah, sure. so chernihiv is the capital of the northern region just some 70 kilometers, 40 miles from the russian border and from the belarusian border. the area outside chernihiv has been occupied by the russian troops within the first maybe five, seven hours of the war. so the majority of the troops moved north in the direction of kyiv. however, they were not able to overtake the city where 300,000 people live. there are quite astonishing destruction. to be honest, it s bigger than borodyanka. i ve been in some areas where,
And maybe even more villages which for one month were living where russian troops were living. so there we see various different stories. of course the scale could be different because, for instance, bucha is 30,000 people, and the village would be 1,000 people. but, for instance, i ve been to a village on the outskirts of chernihiv. so there was the case when natalia, let me jump in there for a moment. let you clear your throat and just ask you this question. i know that you ve had a very hard, late night, so we appreciate you again being with us. but you mentioned that a lot of residents in these areas had actually been have disappeared. do you know where they are? are they accounted for because we re not hearing these stories coming from this area outside chernihiv? i do think that it s we are not yet hearing the stories. the journalists would go travel there. it takes a lot of time.