look to deweaponize the department of justice, at a various times rachel asked, i came back and asked again, and he said i can t answer that question, i don t know. it s very difficult. he goes that has been my position in the past, but this box has been opened, this pandora s ooh box, it s hard to know that if some of these people that are pursuing using the department of justice shouldn t in turn have that used against them rachel: right, yeah, you re right. in the past he would say success is my revenge, and we caught him a day after that verdict and he was, like, i don t know, i ve got to think about that a little bit. anyway, we asked him about just a general reaction to everything that s happened, to the conviction, to how his family s dealing with it. here s what he had to say. well, look, you know, fighting for the constitution, i m fighting for the same thing that you three are. i watch you all the time. same thing that you do, you fight for your freedom, you fight for you