not seeing the open sky for two months? i mean, what a set of torture for these young children and for these families. so, again, yesterday was just a great day for all of these people who are able to leave. and with, so, jason, walk us through the obstacles the red cross faces. how many others you re trying to get out of mariupol. it s complex and complicated issue to resolve. it took five days from beginning to end for this to happen. and we didn t have to travel that far. it s just the tedious process. this is a conflict zone. throughout the conflict zone, there are check points. at each check point, you have to stop, you have to speak with the commander, you have to give permission to move, you have to sort of assure them they know who you are. they may call up and say is this approved? and that process gets repeated over and over again. onment one hand, you pick up the people and they re happy and rejoicing. you have to repeat the process