fifth and refuse to speak. we ll be going through a series of question. for each question we ll have to understand for what reason he thinks he should be able to claim the fifth relative to that particular information. one committee witness, bernie carrick, says he won t appear at his scheduled deposition tomorrow because he wants a public hearing, not one behind closed doors. how will the committee respond to that? we are working with his lawyers. we have postponed at his lawyer s request, which is not unusual. we ve done that with other witnesses so they can prepare with their lawyers. we ve postponed his appearance before the committee and we will be standing by for a future date when he can appear before us and really don t have anything further to add at this point. we re not interested in creating sort of a public spectacle, we are interested in gathering evidence. representative elaine luria, thank you for joining us. thank you. coming up, new information on that deadl