in other large eastern ukrainian cities. and so let me ask you if i can, finally, as you look forward and anticipate what unfolds from here on out, first of all, do you believe that because the battle for kyiv is over and the government the government of volodymyr zelenskyy has survived that ukraine has effectively won this war and more importantly how would you define winning this war if that is the case because of kyiv surviving this ondlaugt by the russians. unfortunately i don t think that ukraine yet won this war. it is hard to say a country won a war when foreign troops are still on ukrainian oil. i think that the most important battle will be in donbas. if russia is able to achieve its goals, capture mariupol and move closer to the city of lipro, which is located on the lipro