he is the son of the first muslim mp in britain, the first asian mp in scotland. he trained as a dentist but then he returned to the family business politics. anas sarwar, welcome to political thinking. my pleasure, thanks for having us. now which is more frightening, waiting for the dentist drill or waiting for the verdict of the electric? definitely waiting for the verdict of the electorate. i mean, the great thing about dentistry is that you get to be in complete control about, you know. the dentist always asks the awkward questions when they are already in the person s mouth doing the treatment and i used to always have this thing with my patients when they came in, i always used to try and loosen them up, say, you know, don t worry, i m a pain free dentist. i never feel any pain. and, you know, that, that interaction part was what i loved about dentistry and actually the people interaction part is what i love about politics as well. i was going to say. although some
i suppose, what do you think? you understand it s a fiction, it s a drama, so you might think they might be taking some liberties, but you do assume it is very mu. .very. .. it s sticking to the truth. and when we were talking about it last week and we were planning that section of the programme, of course we invited netflix to take part, and it chose not to put a guest into the programme. so the only time we ve actually heard from someone at netflix talking about this was to a parliamentary committee, which is where we get to the latest developments of the story. exactly right. because, as you say, the only time netflix has commented since the furore around this programme was when a netflix executive from the uk, benjamin king, gave evidence to the culture, media and sport committee and he talked about the show in this way. he said it was obviously a true story of the horrific abuse that the writer and protagonist richard gadd suffered at the hands of a convicted stalker, an
of stalking that he underwent and says he underwent in real life. and a lot of the controversy revolves around what happens right at the start of the first episode, where we re told by netflix, by the producer of this programme, this is a true story. exactly. because it is unusual. you know, we re used to seeing these kind of programmes where it might say, this is inspired by true events, or, this is based on a true story. it s very rare to see, this is a true story. and as a viewer, when you watch this as a true story, i suppose, what do you think? you understand it s a fiction, it s a drama, so you might think they might be taking some liberties, but you do assume it is very mu. .very. .. it s sticking to the truth. and when we were talking about it last week and we were planning that section of the programme, of course we invited netflix to take part, and it chose not to put a guest into the programme. so the only time we ve actually heard from someone at netflix t
woman s voice: hi. well, we re going to start this week s programme by coming back to a story that actually we covered last week concerning netflix and the controversy around its latest hit, baby reindeer. now, katie, for people who didn t see the programme last week, who perhaps haven t been following all this, although it s been a high profile story, what is baby reindeer? why is it getting so much attention? well, baby reindeer first of all is a hit show across the world. many millions, tens of millions, i think up to 65 million people have watched it, probably more by now. and it is the story purporting to be a true story, because it says at the beginning, this is a true story and it is a story of a man who s played by richard gadd, but he s playing himself. so he s a british actor playing himself, and he is stalked in the programme. and it s a long programme about a terrible campaign of stalking that he underwent and says he underwent in real life. and a lot of the