ceiling limit, secretary yellen says it s october 18th now. even a couple of days for the stock market for instance could be so bad that joe biden and the democratic leadership maybe afraid that the consequences would be so bad for everybody that they don t want to take that risk. that s always the democratic play book in the past. not only we have to be responsible but we are afraid of the political consequences. this is a question of a matter of nerve and political dial. could they pin it on republicans, will they be successful doing that? do that have the confidence in themselves they would make it stick. even if it was 24 or 48 or 72 hours before they get something passed. it could be mayhem and the economy. there is no higher stakes game in this game.