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Transcripts For MSNBCW Morning 20240705

haley and desantis did go after each other with haley presenting herself as the candidate of the future. we need a leader that is not looking at four years and eight years. we need a president that is looking at 20 and 30 years. good news, the frontrunner is looking at 30 years. 20 with good behavior. [ applause ] ah-ha. good morning and welcome to morning joe. it is friday, january 12th. willie, so much to talk about today. let s see, front page of the papers, daily news, we will not be speaking. not sure where morning joe paper of record is today. i guess because ms. bumiller is here, out of respect, they gave us the new york times. new york times, of course, talking about the missile strike against the houthis. washington post, also, we have the strike as the lead. on the other side, trump s trial. wall street journal, inflation ticking up. yeah, willie, nothing in there also about all the coaches that just sort of yesterday was the harvest, my

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 12:19:00

Donald trump, by being too tough on donald trump, by, well, calling a fascist a fascist, drawing parallels with previous fascist governments where the parallels fit really snugly. my criticism of the media is actually on the other sideallow every day. nikki haley said what she said about is civil war. what she didn t say about the civil war, it was written up about four or five times. people are still talking about it. yeah. donald trump says abraham lincoln screwed up. he could have beaten him in a landslide in an election, and lincoln should have negotiated away slavery. what do we hear? nothing. less news. it s less news about all of it. you re talking about how we need to cover donald trump. yeah. you say, we need to challenge others to prove what they say and to note when they fall short. to use language that people of differing views will find hard to deny.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 12:18:00

Be a dictator. do not worry. that s not actually what i meant. right. it s given the biden campaign ammo to go after him. but his campaign is retribution, coming after you for his personal grievances. we know donald trump can t stay disciplined. the second he goes to the rallies that i ll be at at iowa, sure heilemann will be at in iowa, he ll be back to the trump we know who is saying all of these ridiculous things. that will help the biden campaign as they continue to draw this contrast, but i think it ll make voters sort of remember, this is what your choice is. you could have trump. you could have trump-like in desantis. or have a proper alternative like nikki haley who hasn t alienated the maga voters, though she has room to grow to attract more of them to her side. steve, the media has been criticized for obsessing on

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:20:00

To speak briefly during part of the presentation by his lawyers. the judge asked trump directly if he would, quote, promise to just comment on the facts and the law. naturally, trump ignored him, immediately launching into a five-minute rant that broke every one of the judge s rules, claiming he was an innocent man who has been politically prosecuted. the judge called for trump s attorney to control his client before cutting trump off for a scheduled lunch break. the state ag is seeking $370 million in fines and to bar trump from new york real estate industry. the judge said he hopes to have a decision by january 31st, so in a few weeks. he is deciding the case because state law does not allow for juries in this type of lawsuit. joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. she was inside the courtroom yesterday. lisa, you were there. you saw and heard this exchange. we should go back a little bit.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:40:00

I m not going back to that. that is the number one argument. the president himself is fond of saying, don t compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. when the alternative is donald trump, they like their chances. there s polling that suggests a lot of americans don t believe the final two will be biden and trump. it may not be until the spring or summer when americans start paying attention, because many simply are not paying attention. when they do, the biden camp believes even if they re lukewarm on the president, have reservations about his age, whatever it might be, they ll not want to go back to the chaos of donald trump. to pick up on elizabeth s point, because that s something the biden campaign says a lot, people simply haven t heard donald trump in a while. he s become background noise. his reach is so much smaller than it used to be. we can t overlook the fact of the downgrade from the audience he had on twitter to now truth social. no one hears that. thos

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