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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:10:00

And i say this with all sincerity, and i really mean this. that involves our country, our society, you. because you watch the news, you presumably care. doing this in good faith together at a time when so many people operate in bad faith. good faith means a search for justice and accountability. you see why people care about that accountability. it also means respecting this. the person on your screen, whatever you think of him, his politics, or even the face he made, is legally presumed innocent. this is a process of evidence, not hate or emotion. and if he is ultimately acquitted in this or other cases, then we as a society must respect that outcome as well. with that in mind, we have some very special guests. we have nick akerman and jason johnson. nick, your open table here. this is a moment you predicted.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:06:00

I was treated very nicely, but it is what it is. i took a mug shot, which i never heard the words mug shot that wasn t didn t teach me that at the wharton school of finance. i went through an experience today that i never thought i d have to go through. let s take him at his word there. we do fact checks. we do context. but as donald trump has so often proven to be, the washington post said he s lied more than any other public government figure, and they track that. and yet right there you heard a kind of a blurted truth. watergate prosecutor nick akerman standing by. i m going to ask him about that and how it relates to other people booked because it was almost like this person who was caught lying so much actually had to cough up his feeling about how it went. it s not fun. you can sell the merch. you can have some other staffer write an email where you claim to be just, you know, bring on the indictments. but then you heard it in his own voice. we can also tell you trump said

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:08:00

One by one, the rest of his co-defendants filed into court for that processing. 19 have turned themselves in. 1 remains in jail trying to work out a bond deal. the d.a. never needed to issue any of the warrants as threatened because nobody wanted to go down that game of losing chicken with the prosecutor. now, some of these individuals are basically fighting, some saying they should be tried in a different courtroom in federal court, which is fine. they can argue that, and we ll get that worked out in the courts. some maintain their innocence. some are demanding a speedy trial. each one of these individuals is presumed innocent and entitled and afforded those rights to pursue what they think is their best option, whether that is full defense or a plea or something else. now, some are blaming donald trump with their public words. we have more on that coming up this hour. what you re looking at, if you take it together, the indicted rico criminal conspiracy. these are the top people star

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:15:00

Thing again. that s why i say, again, this is a great part of the process. but if the end result isn t that donald trump and his cronies and his co-conspirators, if they are not removed from government, if they are not barred from ever holding office again, this is just going to be a blip in history. and in 35 years, we won t even see that mug shot in textbooks because we probably won t have a democracy to learn about it anymore. that s how dangerous and serious this is. i think this is one step in the process. nick? i think the most important thing right now is making sure that these cases get to trial immediately, both in georgia and both in the district of columbia. we ve got a hearing set up for monday before judge chutkan. she s going to set a trial date. i m hoping that it s going to be january/february. we also have an issue with the trial date in georgia. we have mr. chesebro asking for a speedy trial. normally with a multi-defendant case like that, that gets tagged

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