Side to her personality. And it was interesting to get her messages because precisely you could see how hypocritical she was pretending to be very good friends with the nurse and a few messages later on she was calling her incompetent and, you know, undermining everybody in the unit certainly was very gracious to her management who were extremely supportive of her and yet spent her time denigrating her management, saying that there was poor skill mix every single time that she was on shift. All of this provided perfect cover for what she was doing because people thought, well, yes, its true. We we all being stretched. We have babies that have special needs, but its difficult needs, but its difficult for people. Devious personalities have to look the part. Thats not thats not true. And that definitely wasnt true. She looked like The Girl Next Door who liked betting on horses, enjoyed herjob, was trying to be one of the best. But its all about control. Ive rarely come across a personalit
To move very quickly. Dan roan, bbc news, sydney. This programme continues on bbc one. After a trial lasting 10 months, a jury decided nurse lucy letby deliberately injected seven babies with air, force fed others milk and poisoned some with insulin. Her victims included twins and two boys in a set of identical triplets, who she murdered within 2a hours of each other. Consultants who told Hospital Managers they had concerns about letby were forced to apologise to herfor raising suspicions. Well ask why bosses at the countess of Chester Hospital, where she worked, failed to investigate the deaths for so long. There is only one Serial Killer of babies. The Executive Team were not the people who were responsible for the deaths of those babies, but they had some opportunities to get to the bottom of what was happening. And why does a Health Professional trained to save lives become a Serial Killer . The person who kills within a Healthcare Setting has already developed the desire to kill,
So those doctors sat with you. They poured out their worries. Did they talk about lucy letby . No, no. They talked actually at the time they didnt name anybody. What they talked about was in what they told when they contacted the chief constable, the fact that a nurse had been moved. They didnt actually name the nurse to me because i was at that meeting. I didnt have a lot of time because i had to make a decision on whether we were commencing an investigation or not. So i was focused on actually what does this mean medically . They told me that somebody had been moved and all the events had stopped. But i wasnt really drawn into that that much at that time. My first thoughts were as an sio, that if i had been doing something and Somebody Else had been moved, then i would stop as well. So, you know, i didnt get drawn into much about what that meant. I was more focused at that point on what has actually happened. So thats what our line of investigation was going to focus on initially. So
talking about the evidence as we were, one thing that did not emerge during the trial is what drove lucy letby to do this? what was her motivation or trigger for entering a caring profession to try and help some of the most small and sick and vulnerable babies, and then murder the children in her care? earlier i spoke to dr naomi murphy, who is a consultant clinical forensic psychologist, about her potential motive. there are any number of reasons why health care professionals might ask out and kill. there has been a number of people who have done it. i believe that the nhs close i don t believe that the nhs culture
so that been done. so, the law need changing so that there is a proactive requirement, on bodies to protect whistle blowers. gk, requirement, on bodies to protect whistle-blowers. requirement, on bodies to protect whistle-blowers. ok, so you want to see the liege whistle-blowers. ok, so you want to see the liege lacing whistle-blowers. ok, so you want to see the liege lacing strengthened. . see the liege lacing strengthened. james walker when you look at other public inquiries, whether it is mid staffs or the maternity death december at nottingham, there is this theme, a common thread through many of them, that leader, boss, managers the executive board don t listen, whether it is to their own staff, whether it is to patient, whether it is to relatives, is there something within nhs culture, that is the issue here or is it to do with managers, the managerial level? i think that you are quite right, there a common theme through it all, it is often the families that suffer, that br