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But i want to take a moment to mention a couple additional people who are here. There is three who came from vietnam who will be participating this afternoon. I think that for a number of reasons, i want to introduce them, but including in reference to the past discussion, one of the key ways of talking about whats gone on, what is the harm of the war, is to have the faces and the voices of individual people. And we are fortunate today to have tran, the iwan, who is an agent orange victim and survivor who will be part of a panel this afternoon. We have nguyen phu, from project renew, who will be on a panel this afternoon talking about the the effort of project renew to clear the land mines, and unexploded ordinance. And we have ho van ly who himself is a victim of exploded and unexploded ordnance. I want to take a moment to mention two people who are not part of the book but who played a key role in helping to organize this conference. Particularly, the panel wednesday afternoon, and T
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