better in that respect. it is the quality of what we do worse or better? i think the quality of what we do is actually incredibly good. you mentioned quality, but as you ve heard, some people think there has been a loss of quality because of the cuts that you ve had to make of the past few years. recently the bbc admitted it had been a mistake to interview the lawyer alan dershowitz after ghislaine maxwell s conviction. do you accept that with fewer experience journalists in the newsroom mistakes are going to happen like that even more? well, mistakes do happen. i m not going to deny that. but i think in that particular case, it was less to do with cuts, to be honest and more to do with covid. it was also the 28th of december, it was night, i think the teams are actually quite thinned out come no doubt about it but that s not because of cuts so much as where we are between christmas and new year. really? people thought you should have just googled alan dershowitz, you d have known you