that cut across a wide range of states. nationwide trump won 38% of latino voters. ten points better than he did in 2016 and 11 points better than mitt romney, the 2012 republican nominee. until trump won that bigger than expected share of the latino vote nationwide in 2020, the voting habits of a group long seen as a reliable democratic voting bloc rarely received the kind of attention that ever elusive independent and swing voters do. but that may be about to change. if democrats are smart. joining us now are stephanie valencia, co-founder of equs labs, and maria teresa kumar, president and ceo of voter latino and an msnbc contributor. thank you both very much for being here. stephanie, i mean, i just talked about this in the intro. republicans hit a high mark in 2004 when george w. bush, then president, got 40% of the latino vote. donald trump got 38% in 2020.