our next guest warns that president biden s vaccine mandate could turn the crisis into catastrophe. here to explain the president, ceo national wholesaler distributors, eric hopland. thanks for joining the program. seems like early on i was going into stores, things were out of stock, they didn t want the customers to panic, we ll get the stuff in. but now it seems like the writing is on the wall. so i guess my question is. how bad is it? well, lawrence the supply chain is already stressed and the president s executive order is telling companies that do business with the government as a contractor that they have to fire employees who aren t vaccinated by december 8th. what that is going to mean that tens of thousands of people across the american economy are going to lose their jobs weeks before christmas. in our industry where we re at the center of the supply chain to keep things moving, the busiest time of year we re